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The Beta level cap has recently been increased to 70. Many players have reached the end of the road, accordingly. One such player is Aireon - a lvl 70 Paladin.
With lvl 70 comes Avenging Wrath.
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Also of note:
Mass Dispell seems to randomly select a magic buff - not necessarily Divine Shield when it's up. Note in the video that Aireon's Blessing of Might was removed, not DS.
Spell Steal DOES work on Avenging Wrath, so be extra careful around Mages.
With lvl 70 comes Avenging Wrath.
K I C K A S S
Also of note:
Mass Dispell seems to randomly select a magic buff - not necessarily Divine Shield when it's up. Note in the video that Aireon's Blessing of Might was removed, not DS.
Spell Steal DOES work on Avenging Wrath, so be extra careful around Mages.
posted by Vaelin at 6:36:00 PM
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I can totally imagine squads of level 70 paladins paradropping in on world PvP objectives from a mile or so up...
"Whats that...up in the sky! Its a bird! its a Plane! OH CRAP ITS PALADINS!"
*Cues Flight of the Valkyries*
Enough of this! Has the new patch been released yet? : )
Paladins: Now with wings! (Just like feminine hygiene products, heh heh.)
But seriously, I can't wait.
Also, it was fun to see him in places I didn't recognize. The prospect of new content is making me happy.
Thottbot shows Purge as a counter to AW, which makes me wonder if Purge really can drop it. I'm almost to 69, but I'd like to find out if it's true before I learn the hard way. :P
A couple of things I noticed in the video:
1. It took 2 spellsteals to take AW. He took another buff (BoL?) on the first one, and then AW on the second since it was the only one left (besides Sanc Aura of course). This makes me wonder if AW (and DS) has some kind of resist check added to them.
2. Avenging Wrath does not activate the global cooldown. Which makes it awesome for macroing with AP trinkets like Bladefist's Breadth or Core of Ar'kelos.
So we keep forbearance, even if AW is stolen? That sucks....
As the video said DON'T use AW around mages. Either that or make sure you have every buff available up. I had thought about taking up herbalism and quaffing a whole bunch of the low levels ones, 50 armor, 4 str, all that and see if mages could steal those too.
From what I understand, Spell Steal randomly selects a buff. Even if you stack buffs on top of AW, it may get grabbed first. Don't stack too many, as piling on such buffs activates the global cooldown each time, and AW doesn't last that long.
Whats the point of even making a PvP warrior anymore? This is absolutely ridiculous, you guys shouldn't be doing anywhere close to the amount of damage you guys currently are with Avenging Wrath. Absolutely ridiculous!
Avenging Wrath is only available at level 70. By then, who knows what kind of itemization will be available to Warriors. Then there's the fact that Warriors have multiple ways to avoid/break fears, and aren't susceptible to being shut down like a Paladin is when he tries to cast anything that's not instant.
As for the video, why the hell are you complaining? Remember, again, that the Paladin in the video is lvl 70. I've seen Warrior PvP videos at lvl 60 where they're hitting that hard already. Stop whining and start thinking about how potentially awesome a Warrior-Paladin 2v2 arena team will be at lvl 70.
So roll a pally if you think it's ridiculous and when you get to 70 and see the pains you went through getting there and the gear you need to be able to hit like that you can look at your PvP warrior and see the ability to hit that hard for alot less time invensted or you can see that with the same amount of time you could be hitting a lot harder alot more often.
Why should I roll a paladin just because its FOTM? A warrior can't hit that hard, even at level 70. He was hitting for 2k crusader strike followed by justice for nearly 1k. Take a close look at the video, that is way too much burst damage for a healing class. You can expect a nerf to this.
You know nothing. Curb that tung of yours until further notice. If I'm not mistaken, the expension is in beta phase and still subject to change. One week from now, warriors might receive a series of buffs and you would suddenly go deathly quiet. Nothing disgusts me more then scum who rat on other peoples classes. Work on trying to fix or change the issues with your class, not others.
You're just afraid you'll get a nerf, WHICH YOU WILL and you'll eat it and be a nice dog and lick your wounds like you deserved it WHICH YOU DO.
Warriors don't need buffs, we are where we should be. It's Paladins who need a nerf to their PvP God status. You need to realize that you're a support class, and support classes should not be as strong individually as the pure classes. They should shine only in group situations, which you already do. The problem really is that you have both group and solo utility, that's not balanced and it will be looked at I guarantee it.
If you really think things are going to stay the way they are past BC release you need to THINK AGAIN. Look at what was done to your class prior to WoW's initial release. You know for a fact that when Paladins overstep the boundary of their role as support, Blizzard makes changes immediately to bring you back in line. This will happen again and the CS/Vengeance nerf was just the beginning! I fully expect a cooldown on Avenging Wrath similar to DS. They probably just overlooked this.
"They should shine only in group situations"
Wow. Someone actually said that, and fully believed it has to be the only way things can ever be. Soo... if we say that warriors should only be allowed to shine as single target tanks, i.e. boss tanks? And suck in every other aspect? Makes about as much sense = none at all.
Can you even speculate with any certainty about warrior vs paladin melee performance at lvl 70 when the expansion is still ~ 1.5 months away?
/sarcasm
With our history of nerfs, we are not afraid mate. We're used to it. It doesn't mean we have to like it though. We're going to be nerfed into oblivion just like always so let us enjoy the idea of having a decent class for once.
/end sarcasm
The warrior above has no idea what the hell he's doing. Warriors can pull off that kind of damage at level 60 if properly geared in BWL weaponry and armor - and the blues from level 65 quests alone trounce the stuff from Nefarian himself. Don't go nuts about Paladins and our "uber" damage. These were particularly good rounds of burst damage from a class that otherwise cannot efficiently close with ranged classes (unlike a warrior, who has an charge and hamstring), and don't have anywhere near the damage and melee utility abilities that warriors have in their skills.
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