10 October, 2006

What Is Love?

Thanks Eddie for alerting me on this. Nethaera is asking us "Why a Paladin? What do you love?". She did the same to Shamans four days ago. So...she's done this to both the classes who have zero responses from Kalgan. Coincidence?

Interestingly enough she states in her Pally post:
There are no motives for my post other than both the fact that I like hearing people's stories and that it might help those considering a Paladin know what they can expect from playing one.


Anonymous Suicidal Zebra said...

"[and] it might help those considering a Paladin know what they can expect from playing one."

Okay lads and lasses, I think you can all make your own punch-line here. ;)

Seriously though, I am not sure what my response would be if it did not hold any sarcasm. I guess something like 'fun 5-man up-to 60' is pretty close, though 'be wary of deep-vein thrombosis' on a solo grind to 60 would be my second choice.

Would I be rolling a Paladin in TBC... not on your nelly.

12:21 AM  
Anonymous Arganoth said...

Yes absolutely no motive...honest...none whatsoever...nope, no motive like being told to keep them distracted while we nerf their combat to make sure they're a free honor kill for our warriors...yep, no motives like damage control so I keep my paycheck or anything like that...


12:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blizz likes to switch their forums between two modes. Sometimes it's a direct communication channel to Blizz, with Kalgan coming down and giving out information.

Then when it suits them, they like to say "oh the forums are place for people to discuss the class between yourselves."

So when things are good they like to talk, but when people have legitamite gripes, they shut off all communication. WTF?

12:32 AM  
Anonymous Arganoth said...

Come on people, a two-headed monkey...LOOK AT THE SILLY MONKEY! LOOK AT IT! Ignore the demon and his phallic tentacles wearing a blizzard T-shirt sneaking up behind you and look at the silly two-headed monkey!

But seriously, I love how the thread is already filled with the platepriest crowd going "ZOMG I LOVE BEING MY RAIDS BITCH! AND ANYONE WHO ISNT THEIR RAIDS BITCH IS PLAYING THE GAME WRONG AND NEEDS TO BE KILLED!"

It annoys me that a small group of people simply cant accept that a hybrid should have multiple roles, and that all of those roles should be both viable, and fun to play. They only see their vaunted priestplate and healing and heaven forbid anyone try and do something different. It really amazes me how venemous and cruel those people are to any sort of dissent from their ideals. I know im invoking the "nazi clause" here, but I honestly half expect them to start rounding the rest of us up to be gassed for suggesting they lrn2hybrid. I feel they hate us that much.

12:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe becuase the shaman and the paladin need the most balancing becuase they used to be faction exclusives. so they arnt to sure how things will work in the end

1:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The priestplate/healfag people are funny. Don't get me wrong, I play support sometimes too, especially in BG's with my guild.

Sometimes it's fun to throw on my crit/ap gear and kill people though, but it's not at all easy.

I'm betting a lot of people are like me, I rolled paladin at launch thinking I was getting something that would be powerful in melee (while less powerful than a warrior) and have crappy heals. Instead I got a class with some nice buffs (Blessing of Freedom, BoSac, BoProt) decent heals, but a really, really shitty combat system.

I've heard all the excuses in the world for the seal/judgement system (ie it helps us heal) but it still looks and feels like a shitty hack blizzard threw out a week before launch which they are devoted to not changing.

If they put an ability at the end of retribution which disabled holy light, the seals and judgements, and divine shield, while giving the paladin a large damage boost, a snare, crusader strike and holy strike, how many paladins do you think would spec into it? Is there any doubt this is what many paladins want?

2:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We sure have idiots never writing any constructive post, Benediction is one counterposting just to say its overpowered or imbalanced.
The thing is whether it is or not it has a place in the forum for discussion then the trolls tries to rip it apart not even trying to comprehend concerns, they are just there to troll.

Benediction think the pally forums is her way of shining. So sad. BTW is it true that Benediction is friends with Furor and Tigole?

Many holy paladins that are just holy paladins, not hybrids. They think its fine as is not being able to excel at NOTHING.

All paladins in my guild has several alts at lvl60, but has no chance of them raiding since its full in other classes. Whenever the raid is done i quickly logout to an alt. Coincidence? I think not. Most of our paladin does that. Exalted with several fractions, among the best healing gear next to Naxx, has very good spelldamage gear(mostly judgement and fill it up w trinkets), excellent melee gear. But im still not shining in any perspective. Thats why i havent preordered BC. Wont be able to watch my paladin go to lvl70 because of the pigeonholing that Blizzard have done with the class.

The problem with pallys imo is 3 things.
- We cant get buffed dpswise due to Divine Shield and healing.
- We cant get buffed healing wise due to our armour.
- We cant get buffed tankwise due to intrusion into Warriors "No others Welcome, Warriors only" role.

We can excel at nothing, can be good at best in anything but will always be worse when comparing pally to another class with equal gear.

3:34 AM  
Anonymous Arganoth said...

Dont get me wrong, I dont mind healing...but I dont want that to be all I can ever do without being yelled at for stealing loot from the tanks/healers/dps, or going outside the little cage of "back there" that raids want to stick me in. the platepriests are perfectly fine to sit in the back doing nothing but healing, and thats fine, they're welcome to it, but dont call me a "noob" or any other random internet cliche's just because I dont like playing like you do. Simple as that.

3:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Benediction is apparently one of Tigole's (or was it Furor? Man, my memory.... I should've worn headgear back in my Karate days...) pals from EQ days. Same guild iirc (there was actually a thread about that a while ago....).

4:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Benediction and Furor were in the same guild back when Furor threated to pull that guild out of EQ if paladin tanking abilities weren't nerfed in EQ and Warriors buffed in EQ.


If you dig around google you can find a post he made at some point talking about wow paladins all being whiny 5 year olds who want god mode or something to that effect.

Just google "Furor EQ Paladin Hate" or something to that effect, check google groups too.

Or you could throw his real name Alex Afrasiabi in.

4:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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4:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OMG, and to think he is one of the lead devs...

7:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone knows what should happen when you realize that you are riding a dead horse.

Let horde have some fun with the "eazy mode paladins" the will later (or sooner) realize how much the idiots like Kalgan have done to that class.

I had rest the case with 1.9 - I'm using paladins only as tailor/alchemist (cooldowns) or as first char to conquer a new server (free mount) - never will play them in a raid (pve) or in pvp (the latest paladins will never see level 50 because as soon I got the money for the mount for a real char they got abandoned. No - I don't like warlocks)

8:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see many people confuse Furor as Kalgan or Tigole.

Kalgan (Tom Chilton) is the same guy that was at Blizzcon who made the statement that Paladins were intended to be an easy class to play. He was also responsible for the slideshow that stated Paladins weren't intended to be at the back at the raid.

More about him at the following link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Chilton_%28Game_developer%29

As you can see, he's been responsible for more than one game screw up.

As far as I know, Furor's position at Blizzard is somewhere along the lines of quest developement. Because of the above, you'll notice that many quest/raids items are named after himself and his buddy from EQ, Tigole (although the names used in game aren't exactly spelled the same).

Tigole is in charge of raid content. He was a buddy of Furor's in EQ.

8:26 AM  
Anonymous Thordurin of Bloodhoof said...

I would still like to know who Benediction was in FOH on Veeshan, and if I knew him. I played the high-end game on Veeshan and have several RL friends in FOH. Over the years I've ran into a few people who said "Oh yeah, I was/am in FOH" and turned out they were full of shit. I'd like to see if that's true with Benediction too.

I've asked him in threads where he was actively posting, on two separate occasions too, and still haven't received an answer.

9:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all people who wanna pigeonhole us to support role and they emphasize the support part all the time.

I support them with an /golfclap

9:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've asked him in threads where he was actively posting, on two separate occasions too, and still haven't received an answer

I wouldn't expect an answer after we all gave him so much shit for being furor's pet troll. Benediction probably *IS* furor's trolling alt.

12:44 PM  
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4:57 AM  
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Shithead spammers are here. If I see another post like that I'm removing Anonymous posting, sorry.

5:56 AM  
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9:07 AM  

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